Fred E Hathaway

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  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  to found-my-way:

  Jehovah's way through is working much better than trying to convince a "professional counselor" of the values I'm wanting to live by. Since they don't live by these values themselves, their "advice" was irritating, which only adding confusion to the problems I was needing to address.

  Finding JWD has helped me with my focus. Using my knowledge to help others has helped myself in the process. I hadn't understood boundaries very well since I was quite reclusive prior to joining JWD. (Even when I was considered an active JW, I did most of my activities as a lone Witness.) Having a "strong need to belong to a group" may well explain why I am actively involved on JWD…. Indeed, I was abused as a child. The physical abuse had unintended sexual side-effects since it continued for 2 years after I became pubescent. (I was hit, often as many as 50 strokes, by my dad's narrow leather belt on my bare behind while I was laid across my bed.)

  I am responsible for the choices I've made in life. I accept the consequences of my actions. My hope is in Jehovah and the Kingdom arrangement, not in the training of those opposed to it.
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  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  to vitty:

  To me, it would be worse being on the outside and not wanting to be in on the inside. I've been through at least 4 JCs, with reproof for varying lengths of time. It's probably safe to say that every congregation I've been associated with has had people at various stages of reproof and reinstatement. I have experienced love especially when my attitude improved to the counsel being applied to me. Even now, in this most serious stage, I see the interest and marvel. I am still the most regular one there, 15 months on. People avoid me less than I did when I tried to interrupt to get some attention. I quietly wait when I need some literature or need to update the appropriate MS/elder on something pertaining to the Congregation. I leave right away once I'm done. If I keep doing the same when I'm "reinstated", I'm sure the friends I need will be easy enough to find. I am making some acquaintances here on JWD and where I play pocket billiards, so I'm not concerned. The Congregation I currently am assigned to has had a number of disfellowshipped ones be successfully reinstated in the 7 years I've attended, so I'm sure it will be no different with me.
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  I'm a Liar

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm downtown quite early the other morning while still dark and i see a man holding an awake.

  so, i pull over and wave him over.

  after a few words of cordiality, i ask him why jehovah's witnesses teach that jesus returned invisibly in 1914 when jesus himself said this:in matthew 24:.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  to Who are you?:

  JWs continue to have 5 Congregation-sponsored meetings at the Kingdom Hall nearby, which I attend religiously. As well, I keep up in reading the literature as it comes in, from cover-to-cover, as I can. Professional counselors are no longer recommended, in my case. I am not to have social conversation with anyone that I know to be currently one of JWs or at any Kingdom Hall.
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  "Trinitarians" how can you "lie" to the truth? Is truth a person?

  by booker-t in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was talking to this jw's elder who i believe has to be the best debater against the "trinity" doctrine that jw's have he brought up several point which i feel needs to be addressed by trinitarians.

  first of all he argured that acts 5:3-4 about lying to the holy spirit in no way makes the holy spirit a person any more that "lying to the truth" in james makes "truth" a person.

  i have never seen that verse before about lying to the truth.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  What about Ephesians, chapter 4?
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  Disfellowshipping - How long to return?

  by CaptK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anybody know how long it takes for one to get re-instated if you are not that well liked by the body of elders?

  i was disfellowshiped for immorality almost 2 years ago.

  with my job and attending college to keep in step with my field of work, i have only been attending the sunday talk & wt meeting every week.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  It follows the spirit, not the letter.
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  JW's participate in Government talks with other religious bodies!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (please delete if already posted).

  http://www.online.ie/home/news.aspx?newsid=636132 religious bodies in talks with government.

  ground-breaking talks between the government and religious bodies began in dublin today.. .

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  Fred E Hathaway

  I'm considered an interested person, I attend all 5 Congregation meeting regularly. I'm not interested with friendship with the world. Understanding by some in it is enough for me. Condemning is what the people bring upon themselves, according to the Scriptures. Mercy is given to those who repent. But conversion and dedication must come, sooner or later, before it's too late. God has His ways, which are higher than our own. When we submit/obey, then we benefit from His guidance. If not, our bad choices will lead to bad results for us, when we're individuals or collective bodies.
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  update on my divorce situation

  by depressed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm shocked!

  if you remember my experience, in a nutshell, basically my ex-bethelite ex pioneer husband cheated on me with an older "worldly woman" from his job and left me suddenly.

  i had no idea that we had trouble with our marriage, however, when i discovered the love letters from the other woman, he moved out, and a week after that, i received divorce papers.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  now back to our regular broadcast.
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  update on my divorce situation

  by depressed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm shocked!

  if you remember my experience, in a nutshell, basically my ex-bethelite ex pioneer husband cheated on me with an older "worldly woman" from his job and left me suddenly.

  i had no idea that we had trouble with our marriage, however, when i discovered the love letters from the other woman, he moved out, and a week after that, i received divorce papers.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  And, now a couple more options she may want to check into. What a benefit for waiting for the inspirations given to others. Now to test the spirits to think through which advice is in harmony with Jehovah's will and which is contrary to it. Then formulate a flexible course, allowing for Jehovah's wisdom to elevate the path we each take from here.
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  update on my divorce situation

  by depressed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm shocked!

  if you remember my experience, in a nutshell, basically my ex-bethelite ex pioneer husband cheated on me with an older "worldly woman" from his job and left me suddenly.

  i had no idea that we had trouble with our marriage, however, when i discovered the love letters from the other woman, he moved out, and a week after that, i received divorce papers.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  That's another, very different point of view, if she wants to consider it.
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  update on my divorce situation

  by depressed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm shocked!

  if you remember my experience, in a nutshell, basically my ex-bethelite ex pioneer husband cheated on me with an older "worldly woman" from his job and left me suddenly.

  i had no idea that we had trouble with our marriage, however, when i discovered the love letters from the other woman, he moved out, and a week after that, i received divorce papers.

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  Fred E Hathaway

  By waiting on Jehovah, your answer became available to use in this decision, if she decides to consider it.